. >> jim, you know it's ease uphere in the northeast in new york city. to say here is the solution. the immigration reform plan that maybe is on the table right now. but you are living it every day of your life what is the solution? >> approximately five hundred people come through my ranch and are arrested every month the solution is the border patrol should secure the border at the border. tucson, 70 miles from the border and it takes them two and a half hours to get to the border so they don't go. >> are you saying the solution has to include a fence not necessarily. it would be nice to have a fence. if they just stationed the border patrol in forward operation bases at the border, they could stop, i know they could stop the illegal entry of the druggers and a the cartel smuggling people into the nation. >> jim, if we have 11 million instant citizens. do you think the flood gates near your ranch are going to open even more? >> that's why that's why you have to secure the border first. the flood gates are going to open. at one time i had as many as 30 and 40,000 people coming thro